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27/03/2015
Amendments to the law on sports, the rules of behavior of spectators, ticket sales on passports, frequent scandals with the police at football matches - in the new realities, sometimes an ordinary fan is lost and does not understand what he is entitled to.
Now every fan can get a free consultation by phone and even directly at the stadium, because in the next rounds of the Russian championship at the matches will be on duty lawyers in special shirts.
The Russian football Premier League started cooperation with the European legal service earlier this season. More about this cooperation, about the biggest problems faced by fans at football matches, the correspondent of "MK" Ulyana Urban spoke with the General Director Andrei Goloshchapov.
- Andrew, free legal aid is provided to fans from the seventh round of this season, right?
- True, it was from the seventh round of the championship that we launched a joint project with the RFPL.
- You worked at a football game. How long was your cooperation with the Moscow "Spartak"? And what kind of help did the club's fans get?
- During the matches, we often gave legal advice on administrative, migration law, the law on consumer protection, on automotive topics. We started working with Spartak in 2013 and continued until the start of cooperation with RFPL. Now Spartak fans receive full legal support along with fans of other clubs.
- How active Spartacists appeal to you?
- On average, there were 7 appeals in each round of the championship.
- Did your lawyers help Spartak fans after the game in Yaroslavl? (During the Cup match with Shinnik on October 30, 2013, there were riots at the stadium, and one of the fans hung out a swastika - MK»)
- Yes, the fans called and consulted. We have provided them with the most active assistance. Gave instructions and recommendations how to behave. Many wanted to bring to responsibility "for the company". The fact is that the current administrative practice is such that the principle of presumption of innocence prescribed in the law does not actually work. This is also guided by law enforcement officers, bringing to justice everyone who was at the wrong time, in the wrong place. In our consultations, we tried to convey that responsibility for the committed illegal acts should be personalized, no citizen should be responsible for the actions of third parties. About 10 people then appealed to the company with gratitude for the fact that they managed to avoid bringing to administrative responsibility.
- To the fan Roman Efimov who hung out a swastika, your lawyers helped?
- Our experts did not take part in this case. No appeal. In addition, the company opposes extremism in the stadiums. The placement of such products in the stadium clearly illegal. In accordance with the rules of conduct of spectators during the official sporting event is prohibited to carry and use Nazi and extremist attributes.
- And if you remember the story in Kazan, when Spartak fans were forced to take off their underwear during the inspection?
- Yes, in this case people came to us for General advice. It is important to note that personal inspection can be carried out if there are grounds to suspect a person of committing an administrative offense. For example, it is forbidden to carry and use pyrotechnic products at the stadium. If a citizen tries to carry pyrotechnics to the stadium, he actually commits an administrative offense under article 20.31 of the administrative Code. If police officers have reasonable suspicions that a citizen has prohibited items to be brought to the stadium, and citizens with these items are trying to enter the stadium, carrying out a personal inspection will be legal.
- After an agreement was signed with the Premier League, how many calls and requests for assistance you have already received?
- At the moment, 311 appeals from fans of different clubs are officially registered. In the first rounds, 3-4 people applied, now an average of 25 applied for the tour. The main thing that people began to call not only when there was a trouble, but also for prevention to learn as a whole the rights. It is too early to talk about accurate statistics, but it is worth noting that there are fewer conflicts at the stadium. Most questions arise from groups of fans who travel to other cities. Still, the police in the regions are reinsured and often unreasonably restrict the rights of such groups. But law enforcement officers can understand - an organized group of thousands of young people for the regional center is a lot.
- The most common reasons why fans come to you?
- Basically, these are issues related to the rules of conduct at the stadium, what items you can bring with you, what actions are prohibited. There are many questions about the powers of police officers. Recently, there have been many calls with questions regarding the planned introduction of the rules on the passage to the stadium on passports and the system of identification of fans. It is important to cancel that most of the calls are preventive in nature, that is, fans apply a few hours before the match to come to the stadium already prepared.
- Perhaps, recall the most curious treatment?
- Such, by the way, a lot! For example, near the stadium, a police horse stepped on the fan's foot. What to do? Or a man kicked out of the stadium for being drunk, but he did not drink! Another fan was detained for throwing a fire on the field. But it wasn't him, just standing next to the offender, and their jackets were the same color. How to prove that he did not throw? Still ask whether it is possible to carry in a hot-water bottle alcoholic drinks on stadium. Once on the General screen showed how one of the fans picks his nose without his consent, the whole stadium laughed. He wondered if it would be a humiliation of honor and dignity? That was such a demand: if the offensive coaches and players insults sitting close to the field of fans, it is possible to recover moral damages from these 22 millionaires? Or after the match, the player threw his boots as a souvenir on the stands of his team and one of them cut the head of the child: is it possible to find him guilty of causing harm to health? They ask whether it is possible to bring to justice if you run out naked on the field, or whether it is possible to demand compensation from the football team, which caused moral suffering by its loss?
- Wow, how advanced we have become fans! Andrew, first you consulted only by phone, but now the lawyers in the special collars will be on duty in the stadiums during the matches, right?
- Yes, we plan to try this approach in the next matches. We held a campaign "Stadium - our common home", the fans received information materials with a reminder of the rules of conduct at the stadium, a quiz on the legal topic was held. There was a high interest from the fans, so we plan to repeat this experience.
- The hotline is more often called from Moscow?
- Most of them are from Moscow clubs. But they are the most active. They call from different cities, but club membership does not mean what town is he from. For example, in Krasnodar near the hotel, where the players were placed "Spartak" during the trip to Krasnodar, according to the fans on duty police squad, who stopped everyone with red and white attributes and required a passport to write them in the report. One of the fans who called and asked if it was legal. At the same time, according to him, he is from Voronezh.
- The activities of the organization apply only to football, as far as I understand. Are there any thoughts in the future to conclude the same agreement with the KHL? Hockey, too, are the incidents. For example, fans of Siberia were detained for throwing baseball caps on the ice after a hat trick of a player of their team. But this is a long tradition of hockey...
- Tradition is good, but the law is more important. In football, throw lighters, coins and other improvised means. This is wrong. We warn the fans about it. Thanks to the efforts of the security service of the RFPL and its Director Alexander Meitin, the stadiums are modern video surveillance systems that allow you to pinpoint the thrower. Objects, though small, but they really can cause harm to health. And the responsibility for this is already provided for by the norms of criminal and administrative legislation, not sports. Working with RFPL is an excellent experience that we plan to transfer to other segments. But first it is necessary to "run" all the tools, and only then to transfer this experience to hockey and other sports.
Now every fan can get a free consultation by phone and even directly at the stadium, because in the next rounds of the Russian championship at the matches will be on duty lawyers in special shirts.
The Russian football Premier League started cooperation with the European legal service earlier this season. More about this cooperation, about the biggest problems faced by fans at football matches, the correspondent of "MK" Ulyana Urban spoke with the General Director Andrei Goloshchapov.
- Andrew, free legal aid is provided to fans from the seventh round of this season, right?
- True, it was from the seventh round of the championship that we launched a joint project with the RFPL.
- You worked at a football game. How long was your cooperation with the Moscow "Spartak"? And what kind of help did the club's fans get?
- During the matches, we often gave legal advice on administrative, migration law, the law on consumer protection, on automotive topics. We started working with Spartak in 2013 and continued until the start of cooperation with RFPL. Now Spartak fans receive full legal support along with fans of other clubs.
- How active Spartacists appeal to you?
- On average, there were 7 appeals in each round of the championship.
- Did your lawyers help Spartak fans after the game in Yaroslavl? (During the Cup match with Shinnik on October 30, 2013, there were riots at the stadium, and one of the fans hung out a swastika - MK»)
- Yes, the fans called and consulted. We have provided them with the most active assistance. Gave instructions and recommendations how to behave. Many wanted to bring to responsibility "for the company". The fact is that the current administrative practice is such that the principle of presumption of innocence prescribed in the law does not actually work. This is also guided by law enforcement officers, bringing to justice everyone who was at the wrong time, in the wrong place. In our consultations, we tried to convey that responsibility for the committed illegal acts should be personalized, no citizen should be responsible for the actions of third parties. About 10 people then appealed to the company with gratitude for the fact that they managed to avoid bringing to administrative responsibility.
- To the fan Roman Efimov who hung out a swastika, your lawyers helped?
- Our experts did not take part in this case. No appeal. In addition, the company opposes extremism in the stadiums. The placement of such products in the stadium clearly illegal. In accordance with the rules of conduct of spectators during the official sporting event is prohibited to carry and use Nazi and extremist attributes.
- And if you remember the story in Kazan, when Spartak fans were forced to take off their underwear during the inspection?
- Yes, in this case people came to us for General advice. It is important to note that personal inspection can be carried out if there are grounds to suspect a person of committing an administrative offense. For example, it is forbidden to carry and use pyrotechnic products at the stadium. If a citizen tries to carry pyrotechnics to the stadium, he actually commits an administrative offense under article 20.31 of the administrative Code. If police officers have reasonable suspicions that a citizen has prohibited items to be brought to the stadium, and citizens with these items are trying to enter the stadium, carrying out a personal inspection will be legal.
- After an agreement was signed with the Premier League, how many calls and requests for assistance you have already received?
- At the moment, 311 appeals from fans of different clubs are officially registered. In the first rounds, 3-4 people applied, now an average of 25 applied for the tour. The main thing that people began to call not only when there was a trouble, but also for prevention to learn as a whole the rights. It is too early to talk about accurate statistics, but it is worth noting that there are fewer conflicts at the stadium. Most questions arise from groups of fans who travel to other cities. Still, the police in the regions are reinsured and often unreasonably restrict the rights of such groups. But law enforcement officers can understand - an organized group of thousands of young people for the regional center is a lot.
- The most common reasons why fans come to you?
- Basically, these are issues related to the rules of conduct at the stadium, what items you can bring with you, what actions are prohibited. There are many questions about the powers of police officers. Recently, there have been many calls with questions regarding the planned introduction of the rules on the passage to the stadium on passports and the system of identification of fans. It is important to cancel that most of the calls are preventive in nature, that is, fans apply a few hours before the match to come to the stadium already prepared.
- Perhaps, recall the most curious treatment?
- Such, by the way, a lot! For example, near the stadium, a police horse stepped on the fan's foot. What to do? Or a man kicked out of the stadium for being drunk, but he did not drink! Another fan was detained for throwing a fire on the field. But it wasn't him, just standing next to the offender, and their jackets were the same color. How to prove that he did not throw? Still ask whether it is possible to carry in a hot-water bottle alcoholic drinks on stadium. Once on the General screen showed how one of the fans picks his nose without his consent, the whole stadium laughed. He wondered if it would be a humiliation of honor and dignity? That was such a demand: if the offensive coaches and players insults sitting close to the field of fans, it is possible to recover moral damages from these 22 millionaires? Or after the match, the player threw his boots as a souvenir on the stands of his team and one of them cut the head of the child: is it possible to find him guilty of causing harm to health? They ask whether it is possible to bring to justice if you run out naked on the field, or whether it is possible to demand compensation from the football team, which caused moral suffering by its loss?
- Wow, how advanced we have become fans! Andrew, first you consulted only by phone, but now the lawyers in the special collars will be on duty in the stadiums during the matches, right?
- Yes, we plan to try this approach in the next matches. We held a campaign "Stadium - our common home", the fans received information materials with a reminder of the rules of conduct at the stadium, a quiz on the legal topic was held. There was a high interest from the fans, so we plan to repeat this experience.
- The hotline is more often called from Moscow?
- Most of them are from Moscow clubs. But they are the most active. They call from different cities, but club membership does not mean what town is he from. For example, in Krasnodar near the hotel, where the players were placed "Spartak" during the trip to Krasnodar, according to the fans on duty police squad, who stopped everyone with red and white attributes and required a passport to write them in the report. One of the fans who called and asked if it was legal. At the same time, according to him, he is from Voronezh.
- The activities of the organization apply only to football, as far as I understand. Are there any thoughts in the future to conclude the same agreement with the KHL? Hockey, too, are the incidents. For example, fans of Siberia were detained for throwing baseball caps on the ice after a hat trick of a player of their team. But this is a long tradition of hockey...
- Tradition is good, but the law is more important. In football, throw lighters, coins and other improvised means. This is wrong. We warn the fans about it. Thanks to the efforts of the security service of the RFPL and its Director Alexander Meitin, the stadiums are modern video surveillance systems that allow you to pinpoint the thrower. Objects, though small, but they really can cause harm to health. And the responsibility for this is already provided for by the norms of criminal and administrative legislation, not sports. Working with RFPL is an excellent experience that we plan to transfer to other segments. But first it is necessary to "run" all the tools, and only then to transfer this experience to hockey and other sports.